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		<title>Comment on Stop the Press!! &#8211; Ediacaran Life, on land! by LS</title>
		<link>http://blogs.helsinki.fi/bk-club/2013/01/07/stop-the-press-ediacaran-life-on-land/comment-page-1/#comment-43</link>
		<dc:creator>LS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 12:45:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When looking for a modern analog of the Retellack&#039;s Terrestrial Ediacara, one was reminiscing this:

http://www.anbg.gov.au/lichen/ecology-habitats-arid.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lichens_in_Namibia
http://journals.cambridge.org/action/displayAbstract;jsessionid=EA8E1F0A2B44C6AE13354A82BF606CE0.journals?fromPage=online&amp;aid=271694
http://www.jstor.org/stable/2389909

http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/biology/resources/crittenden/images/pc-4a.jpg

There is actually very nice footage of them in the BBC&#039;s series &quot;Private Life of Plants&quot;, too bad no Youtube-clips has been made... :)

Cheers!

--Mikko</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When looking for a modern analog of the Retellack&#8217;s Terrestrial Ediacara, one was reminiscing this:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.anbg.gov.au/lichen/ecology-habitats-arid.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.anbg.gov.au/lichen/ecology-habitats-arid.html</a><br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lichens_in_Namibia" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lichens_in_Namibia</a><br />
<a href="http://journals.cambridge.org/action/displayAbstract;jsessionid=EA8E1F0A2B44C6AE13354A82BF606CE0.journals?fromPage=online&#038;aid=271694" rel="nofollow">http://journals.cambridge.org/action/displayAbstract;jsessionid=EA8E1F0A2B44C6AE13354A82BF606CE0.journals?fromPage=online&#038;aid=271694</a><br />
<a href="http://www.jstor.org/stable/2389909" rel="nofollow">http://www.jstor.org/stable/2389909</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/biology/resources/crittenden/images/pc-4a.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/biology/resources/crittenden/images/pc-4a.jpg</a></p>
<p>There is actually very nice footage of them in the BBC&#8217;s series &#8220;Private Life of Plants&#8221;, too bad no Youtube-clips has been made&#8230; <img src='http://blogs.helsinki.fi/bk-club/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
<p>&#8211;Mikko</p>
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		<title>Comment on Hominins living on the sedge by LS</title>
		<link>http://blogs.helsinki.fi/bk-club/2012/11/27/hominins-living-on-the-sedge/comment-page-1/#comment-42</link>
		<dc:creator>LS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2012 13:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And here&#039;s another interesting paper about diet and human evolution (from a hunting cooperation view point):

http://www.jstor.org/stable/10.1086/667653

- Laura</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And here&#8217;s another interesting paper about diet and human evolution (from a hunting cooperation view point):</p>
<p><a href="http://www.jstor.org/stable/10.1086/667653" rel="nofollow">http://www.jstor.org/stable/10.1086/667653</a></p>
<p>- Laura</p>
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		<title>Comment on How to weigh dinosaurs (and mammals) with lasers by BKC</title>
		<link>http://blogs.helsinki.fi/bk-club/2012/06/06/how-to-weigh-dinosaurs-and-mammals-with-lasers/comment-page-1/#comment-41</link>
		<dc:creator>BKC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2012 12:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think one of the issues is that the method described requires relatively complete, mounted specimens. Current estimates for Amphicoelias fragillimus AKA &#039;The one that got away&#039; are from about 80-264 tons, based on a method that results in what folks consider to be an underestimate of weight in Diplodocus. (Carpenter 2006 and here:

http://svpow.com/2010/02/19/how-big-was-amphicoelias-fragillimus-i-mean-really/ 

Ian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think one of the issues is that the method described requires relatively complete, mounted specimens. Current estimates for Amphicoelias fragillimus AKA &#8216;The one that got away&#8217; are from about 80-264 tons, based on a method that results in what folks consider to be an underestimate of weight in Diplodocus. (Carpenter 2006 and here:</p>
<p><a href="http://svpow.com/2010/02/19/how-big-was-amphicoelias-fragillimus-i-mean-really/" rel="nofollow">http://svpow.com/2010/02/19/how-big-was-amphicoelias-fragillimus-i-mean-really/</a> </p>
<p>Ian</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tuatara bites by BKC</title>
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		<dc:creator>BKC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2012 07:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is some additional information, including a link 

- Mikko

Not strictly dino-related, but may be of interest:

Marc E.H. Jones, Paul O&#039;higgins, Michael J. Fagan, Susan E. Evans &amp; Neil
Curtis (2012) Shearing Mechanics and the Influence of a Flexible Symphysis
During Oral Food Processing in Sphenodon (Lepidosauria: Rhynchocephalia).
Anatomical Record (advance online publication)
doi: 10.1002/ar.22487
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ar.22487/abstract

The New Zealand tuatara, Sphenodon, has a specialized feeding system in
which the teeth of the lower jaw close between two upper tooth rows before
sliding forward to slice food apart like a draw cut saw. This shearing
action is unique amongst living amniotes but has been compared with the
chewing power stroke of mammals. We investigated details of the jaw movement
using multibody dynamics analysis of an anatomically accurate
three-dimensional computer model constructed from computed tomography scans.
The model predicts that a flexible symphysis is necessary for changes in the
intermandibular angle that permits prooral movement. Models with the
greatest symphysial flexibility allow the articulation surface of the
articular to follow the quadrate cotyle with the least restriction, and
suggest that shearing is accompanied by a long axis rotation of the lower
jaws.
This promotes precise point loading between the cutting edges of particular
teeth, enhancing the effectiveness of the shearing action.
Given that Sphenodon is a relatively inactive reptile, we suggest that the
link between oral food processing and endothermy has been overstated. Food
processing improves feeding efficiency, a consideration of particular
importance when food availability is unpredictable. Although this feeding
mechanism is today limited to Sphenodon, a survey of fossil
rhynchocephalians suggests that it was once more widespread.

Press Release with video:
http://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/news-articles/May2012/120530-new-zealand-reptile-shows-chewing-not-just-for-mammals</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is some additional information, including a link </p>
<p>- Mikko</p>
<p>Not strictly dino-related, but may be of interest:</p>
<p>Marc E.H. Jones, Paul O&#8217;higgins, Michael J. Fagan, Susan E. Evans &amp; Neil<br />
Curtis (2012) Shearing Mechanics and the Influence of a Flexible Symphysis<br />
During Oral Food Processing in Sphenodon (Lepidosauria: Rhynchocephalia).<br />
Anatomical Record (advance online publication)<br />
doi: 10.1002/ar.22487<br />
<a href="http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ar.22487/abstract" rel="nofollow">http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ar.22487/abstract</a></p>
<p>The New Zealand tuatara, Sphenodon, has a specialized feeding system in<br />
which the teeth of the lower jaw close between two upper tooth rows before<br />
sliding forward to slice food apart like a draw cut saw. This shearing<br />
action is unique amongst living amniotes but has been compared with the<br />
chewing power stroke of mammals. We investigated details of the jaw movement<br />
using multibody dynamics analysis of an anatomically accurate<br />
three-dimensional computer model constructed from computed tomography scans.<br />
The model predicts that a flexible symphysis is necessary for changes in the<br />
intermandibular angle that permits prooral movement. Models with the<br />
greatest symphysial flexibility allow the articulation surface of the<br />
articular to follow the quadrate cotyle with the least restriction, and<br />
suggest that shearing is accompanied by a long axis rotation of the lower<br />
jaws.<br />
This promotes precise point loading between the cutting edges of particular<br />
teeth, enhancing the effectiveness of the shearing action.<br />
Given that Sphenodon is a relatively inactive reptile, we suggest that the<br />
link between oral food processing and endothermy has been overstated. Food<br />
processing improves feeding efficiency, a consideration of particular<br />
importance when food availability is unpredictable. Although this feeding<br />
mechanism is today limited to Sphenodon, a survey of fossil<br />
rhynchocephalians suggests that it was once more widespread.</p>
<p>Press Release with video:<br />
<a href="http://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/news-articles/May2012/120530-new-zealand-reptile-shows-chewing-not-just-for-mammals" rel="nofollow">http://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/news-articles/May2012/120530-new-zealand-reptile-shows-chewing-not-just-for-mammals</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Mini mammoth once roamed Crete by BKC</title>
		<link>http://blogs.helsinki.fi/bk-club/2012/05/09/mini-mammoth-once-roamed-crete/comment-page-1/#comment-39</link>
		<dc:creator>BKC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2012 13:32:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice!

Been known and even described previously, but always nice to have extra
knowledge. :)

Dwarf-proboscideans from Mediterranean and around the world listed in the
Archive:

Elephas (Palaeoloxodon) antiquus creutzbergi (Kuss, 1965) ()
Elephas (Palaeoloxodon) antiquus leonardii ()
Elephas (Palaeoloxodon) melitensis ()

Mammuthus lamarmorae ()
Mammuthus creticus ()
Mammuthus columbi exilis ()
Mammuthus primigenius wrangeliensis ()


	Lister, A. M. &amp; Sher, A. V., 2001: The origin and evolution of the
woolly mammoth.
–Science: Vol. 294, pp. 1094-1097 

	Poulakakis, N., Mylonas, M., Lymberakis, P. &amp; Fassoulas, G., 2002:
Origin and taxonomy of the fossil elephants of the island of Crete (Greese):
proplems and perspectives.
–Palaegeography, Palaeoclimatology, Palaeoecology: Vol. 186, pp. 163-183

	Shoshoni, J., &amp; Tassy, P., (eds.), 1996: The Proboscidea - Evolution
and paleontology of elephants and their relatives.
–Oxford University Press, New York, 1996, xxx - 472

Interestingly, there seems not to be any dwarf-species in _Loxodonta_

--Mikko</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice!</p>
<p>Been known and even described previously, but always nice to have extra<br />
knowledge. <img src='http://blogs.helsinki.fi/bk-club/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Dwarf-proboscideans from Mediterranean and around the world listed in the<br />
Archive:</p>
<p>Elephas (Palaeoloxodon) antiquus creutzbergi (Kuss, 1965) ()<br />
Elephas (Palaeoloxodon) antiquus leonardii ()<br />
Elephas (Palaeoloxodon) melitensis ()</p>
<p>Mammuthus lamarmorae ()<br />
Mammuthus creticus ()<br />
Mammuthus columbi exilis ()<br />
Mammuthus primigenius wrangeliensis ()</p>
<p>	Lister, A. M. &amp; Sher, A. V., 2001: The origin and evolution of the<br />
woolly mammoth.<br />
–Science: Vol. 294, pp. 1094-1097 </p>
<p>	Poulakakis, N., Mylonas, M., Lymberakis, P. &amp; Fassoulas, G., 2002:<br />
Origin and taxonomy of the fossil elephants of the island of Crete (Greese):<br />
proplems and perspectives.<br />
–Palaegeography, Palaeoclimatology, Palaeoecology: Vol. 186, pp. 163-183</p>
<p>	Shoshoni, J., &amp; Tassy, P., (eds.), 1996: The Proboscidea &#8211; Evolution<br />
and paleontology of elephants and their relatives.<br />
–Oxford University Press, New York, 1996, xxx &#8211; 472</p>
<p>Interestingly, there seems not to be any dwarf-species in _Loxodonta_</p>
<p>&#8211;Mikko</p>
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		<title>Comment on Nature, Archaeopteryx by BKC</title>
		<link>http://blogs.helsinki.fi/bk-club/2012/01/25/nature-archaeopteryx/comment-page-1/#comment-38</link>
		<dc:creator>BKC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2012 13:28:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The iconic feathered dinosaur...&quot;

Or bird, again, if you believe Mike Lee:

(Likelihood reinstates Archaeopteryx as a primitive bird; Michael S. Y. Lee and Trevor H. Worthy 2011, http://rsbl.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/early/2011/10/18/rsbl.2011.0884.short)

rather than Xu Xing, feathered dinosaur palaeontologist extraordinaire:

(An Archaeopteryx-like theropod from China and the origin of Avialae, Xu et al 2011, http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v475/n7357/full/nature10288.html)

Xu Xing&#039;s talk at SVP provoked a lot of debate, as he tried to refute the just published Lee &amp; Worthy refutation of his own paper; frustratingly it was the exact same time as mine so I missed it!

Ryan Carney (lead author on the feather paper) gave an excellent talk on the feather at SVP. Interestingly, a rival group was unable to detect melanosomes from the best preserved &#039;Thermopolis&#039; Arachaeopteryx specimen (which incidentally was also subject to phylogenetic debate, that time about whether flight evolved twice in birds and their close non-avian dinosaurian relatives:

Corfe &amp; Butler 2006, Comment on ‘‘A Well-Preserved Archaeopteryx Specimen with
Theropod Features’, http://www.sciencemag.org/content/313/5791/1238.2

Plus don&#039;t forget last year was the 150th anniversary of the discovery of Archaeopteryx, complete with celebratory 10 euro coin (and removal from it&#039;s perch as the earliest bird, or not, as discussed above). I suspect the feather paper was supposed to come out in the 150th year too, couple of weeks late, ah well.

Ian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The iconic feathered dinosaur&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Or bird, again, if you believe Mike Lee:</p>
<p>(Likelihood reinstates Archaeopteryx as a primitive bird; Michael S. Y. Lee and Trevor H. Worthy 2011, <a href="http://rsbl.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/early/2011/10/18/rsbl.2011.0884.short" rel="nofollow">http://rsbl.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/early/2011/10/18/rsbl.2011.0884.short</a>)</p>
<p>rather than Xu Xing, feathered dinosaur palaeontologist extraordinaire:</p>
<p>(An Archaeopteryx-like theropod from China and the origin of Avialae, Xu et al 2011, <a href="http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v475/n7357/full/nature10288.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v475/n7357/full/nature10288.html</a>)</p>
<p>Xu Xing&#8217;s talk at SVP provoked a lot of debate, as he tried to refute the just published Lee &amp; Worthy refutation of his own paper; frustratingly it was the exact same time as mine so I missed it!</p>
<p>Ryan Carney (lead author on the feather paper) gave an excellent talk on the feather at SVP. Interestingly, a rival group was unable to detect melanosomes from the best preserved &#8216;Thermopolis&#8217; Arachaeopteryx specimen (which incidentally was also subject to phylogenetic debate, that time about whether flight evolved twice in birds and their close non-avian dinosaurian relatives:</p>
<p>Corfe &amp; Butler 2006, Comment on ‘‘A Well-Preserved Archaeopteryx Specimen with<br />
Theropod Features’, <a href="http://www.sciencemag.org/content/313/5791/1238.2" rel="nofollow">http://www.sciencemag.org/content/313/5791/1238.2</a></p>
<p>Plus don&#8217;t forget last year was the 150th anniversary of the discovery of Archaeopteryx, complete with celebratory 10 euro coin (and removal from it&#8217;s perch as the earliest bird, or not, as discussed above). I suspect the feather paper was supposed to come out in the 150th year too, couple of weeks late, ah well.</p>
<p>Ian</p>
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		<title>Comment on Unicuspid and bicuspid tooth crown formation in squamates by BKC</title>
		<link>http://blogs.helsinki.fi/bk-club/2011/11/17/unicuspid-and-bicuspid-tooth-crown-formation-in-squamates/comment-page-1/#comment-37</link>
		<dc:creator>BKC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 08:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm

Axolotls are supposed to have bicuspic pedicillate teeth, why not check those?

Oh, sorry, somebody already did...

Soukup, V., Epperlein, H.-H., Horacek, I. &amp; Cerny, R., 2008: Dual epithelial origin of vertebrate oral teeth.
–Nature: Vol. 455, #7214, pp. 795-798 [doi: 10.1038/nature07304]

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v455/n7214/full/nature07304.html

--Mikko</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm</p>
<p>Axolotls are supposed to have bicuspic pedicillate teeth, why not check those?</p>
<p>Oh, sorry, somebody already did&#8230;</p>
<p>Soukup, V., Epperlein, H.-H., Horacek, I. &amp; Cerny, R., 2008: Dual epithelial origin of vertebrate oral teeth.<br />
–Nature: Vol. 455, #7214, pp. 795-798 [doi: 10.1038/nature07304]</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v455/n7214/full/nature07304.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v455/n7214/full/nature07304.html</a></p>
<p>&#8211;Mikko</p>
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		<title>Comment on Unicuspid and bicuspid tooth crown formation in squamates by BKC</title>
		<link>http://blogs.helsinki.fi/bk-club/2011/11/17/unicuspid-and-bicuspid-tooth-crown-formation-in-squamates/comment-page-1/#comment-36</link>
		<dc:creator>BKC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 08:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The paper I&#039;ve been waiting for Handrigan &amp; Richman to produce, perfect!

The one line summary/key finding, for those who are interested:

&quot;Cusp formation in the (multicuspid) gecko does not occur by the folding of the inner enamel epithelium, as in the mouse molar, but by the differential secretion of enamel.&quot;

The gecko teeth are kind of only just multicuspid, however, so I wonder if this only applies to &#039;kind of only just multicuspid&#039; taxa rather than fully multicuspid teeth.

Thanks Jackie.

Ian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The paper I&#8217;ve been waiting for Handrigan &amp; Richman to produce, perfect!</p>
<p>The one line summary/key finding, for those who are interested:</p>
<p>&#8220;Cusp formation in the (multicuspid) gecko does not occur by the folding of the inner enamel epithelium, as in the mouse molar, but by the differential secretion of enamel.&#8221;</p>
<p>The gecko teeth are kind of only just multicuspid, however, so I wonder if this only applies to &#8216;kind of only just multicuspid&#8217; taxa rather than fully multicuspid teeth.</p>
<p>Thanks Jackie.</p>
<p>Ian</p>
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		<dc:creator>Neanderthals are us? &#171; Why Evolution Is True</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 May 2011 04:04:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] varied as to whether Neanderthals were a subspecies of H. sapiens or a separate species. The great Finnish paleontologist Bjorn Kurten proposed in his novel, Dance of the Tiger, that Neanderthals and modern [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Artefacts hint at earliest Neanderthals in Britain by Annika</title>
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		<dc:creator>Annika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 13:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On a similar note: 

http://www.ascsa.edu.gr/index.php/news/newsDetails/plakias-survey-finds-stone-age-tools-on-crete/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On a similar note: </p>
<p><a href="http://www.ascsa.edu.gr/index.php/news/newsDetails/plakias-survey-finds-stone-age-tools-on-crete/" rel="nofollow">http://www.ascsa.edu.gr/index.php/news/newsDetails/plakias-survey-finds-stone-age-tools-on-crete/</a></p>
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